Shields and Brooks on Hagel's Rough Hearing, Movement on Immigration

Listen to the Audio JUDY WOODRUFF: And to the analysis of Shields and Brooks. That is syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times columnist David Brooks. Well, gentlemen. MARK SHIELDS: Judy. JUDY WOODRUFF: So, Hillary Clinton, we just heard this discussion, David.

The two of you weighed in on her legacy last week. And I think both of you agreed, in essence, that she didn't have an